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	<title>Comments on: See Magazine runs tobacco ads? Who knew?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding of &quot;mainstream media&quot; is that it&#039;s a term used to refer to &quot;old media&quot; (i.e.: TV, newspaper, radio...anything that isn&#039;t purely Internet-based, really). But, you&#039;re right, it&#039;s often used as a pejorative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of &#8220;mainstream media&#8221; is that it&#8217;s a term used to refer to &#8220;old media&#8221; (i.e.: TV, newspaper, radio&#8230;anything that isn&#8217;t purely Internet-based, really). But, you&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s often used as a pejorative.</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Saffel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain Saffel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to do some research. I can&#039;t remember why the tobacco companies are now allowed to advertise. Wasn&#039;t it a constitutional challenge? Corporations and free speech?

Either way, it&#039;s ridiculous. They shouldn&#039;t be allowed to advertise, period.

It seems that &quot;mainstream media&quot; is used by the fringe in a pejorative way. Going with the river analogy, are fringe media the detritus that collects in eddies and drops into oblivion on the river bottom, effectively becoming the muck? The mainstream, presumably then, is the clean, pure, oxygenated, fast-flowing current.

Not making a statement, just wondering. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to do some research. I can&#8217;t remember why the tobacco companies are now allowed to advertise. Wasn&#8217;t it a constitutional challenge? Corporations and free speech?</p>
<p>Either way, it&#8217;s ridiculous. They shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to advertise, period.</p>
<p>It seems that &#8220;mainstream media&#8221; is used by the fringe in a pejorative way. Going with the river analogy, are fringe media the detritus that collects in eddies and drops into oblivion on the river bottom, effectively becoming the muck? The mainstream, presumably then, is the clean, pure, oxygenated, fast-flowing current.</p>
<p>Not making a statement, just wondering. <img src='http://alainsaffel.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite odd to see tobacco ads in SEE. I can&#039;t remember the last time I saw a tobacco ad in any magazine that wasn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;Cigar Aficionado&lt;/i&gt;, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if this trend continues and we see a resurgence of tobacco ads in magazines, especially now that (at least here in Alberta) it&#039;s illegal to publicly display tobacco products in stores where minors are allowed to enter (i.e.: pretty much everywhere except for tobacconists). Tobacco is becoming more and more invisible in public---aside from seeing people smoking on the street, of course, but even that seems rare these days---so I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if tobacco companies start offering big payouts (i.e.: we&#039;ll pay you more than your standard rate) to get ad space in the few places that they&#039;re still legally allowed to advertise. With so many &quot;mainstream media&quot; outlets (can we stop using that term yet?) facing financial difficultly, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see more of them accept the offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is quite odd to see tobacco ads in SEE. I can&#8217;t remember the last time I saw a tobacco ad in any magazine that wasn&#8217;t <i>Cigar Aficionado</i>, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if this trend continues and we see a resurgence of tobacco ads in magazines, especially now that (at least here in Alberta) it&#8217;s illegal to publicly display tobacco products in stores where minors are allowed to enter (i.e.: pretty much everywhere except for tobacconists). Tobacco is becoming more and more invisible in public&#8212;aside from seeing people smoking on the street, of course, but even that seems rare these days&#8212;so I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if tobacco companies start offering big payouts (i.e.: we&#8217;ll pay you more than your standard rate) to get ad space in the few places that they&#8217;re still legally allowed to advertise. With so many &#8220;mainstream media&#8221; outlets (can we stop using that term yet?) facing financial difficultly, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see more of them accept the offer.</p>
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